Tuesday, December 11, 2007

Give Sears and K-Mart a Holiday They Won’t Soon Forget

The attack on Christmas continues. According to the Liberty Council Alert of December 5, 2007, “K-Mart and Sears have intentionally renamed “Christmas trees” to “holiday trees” or simply “trees” in its advertising. K-Mart is owned by Sears Holding Corporation.”

Call them and then boycott them! The Sears Holding Corporation telephone number is 847-286-2500. President and CEO Aylwin Lewis should know that his “holiday trees” are offensive to shoppers who celebrate Christmas.

My husband just called and had a nice long “discussion” with them. They don’t want to offend their diverse customers. He told them that they are now offending their largest customer base – Christians!!!

This is from the Liberty Council Alert:

December 5, 2007
K-Mart and Sears Offend Christians By Trying To Avoid Offending Other Religions

K-Mart and Sears have intentionally renamed “Christmas trees” to “holiday trees” or simply “trees” in its advertising. K-Mart is owned by Sears Holding Corporation.

A Liberty Counsel supporter asked K-Mart for an explanation of the company’s disregard for Christmas. Vincent V., a representative from Sears Holding Corporation, responded:

The reason for our use of holiday tree is due to the [sic] Sears Holding is a very diverse company, we do not want to offend any of our associates, but also our valued customers. We decided to call them holiday trees because even if Christians are the only religion that uses a Christmas tree we still do not want complaints from other customers of different religions complaining about our use of Christmas.

What? Christmas is a federal holiday. Green, pointed, prickly trees we decorate in December are called “Christmas trees” all around the world. In the process of trying to be “diverse” and to allegedly not offend their associates or customers, Sears and K-Mart have offended their largest customer base – Christians and others who celebrate Christmas. Even the minority who do not celebrate Christmas are not offended by its celebration by others. However, Sears and K-Mart have offended their customers. Those stores are not the only choices consumers have this Christmas. In 2005, Sears received so much pressure from consumers in the midst of the Christmas shopping season that it reprinted its ads to include Christmas and rushed “Merry Christmas” signs to all of its retail outlets. Apparently, the disease of political correctness has once again infected Sears and K-Mart.

Mathew D. Staver, Founder of Liberty Counsel and Dean of Liberty University School of Law, commented: “It borders on the absurd to remove the word ‘Christmas’ from a ‘Christmas tree.’ Sears and K-Mart have offended their customer base by thinking they can profit from Christmas while pretending it does not exist. The best thing for consumers to do this Christmas season is to act as if Sears and K-Mart do not exist and instead patronize their competitors.”

The Sears Holding Corporation telephone number is 847-286-2500. President and CEO Aylwin Lewis should know that his “holiday trees” are offensive to shoppers who celebrate Christmas.

For more information about Liberty Counsel’s Friend or Foe Christmas Campaign and the “Naughty & Nice” list of retailers, visit www.LC.org or call 1-800-671-1776.

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  1. I find this interesting since I work for KMart/Sears and all of our advertisements say Christmas Trees, Christmas ornaments etc. Perhaps this is a regional thing? I'm in South Eastern Tennessee

  2. Self-proclaimed « Christians » using religion as a bludgeon – how perfect. Sears and K-Mart (if they are in fact doing what our blogger says) are just doing what any red-blooded capitalist would do – trying to make a buck in the free market. Why can’t these complainers contribute something USEFUL to the public dialog for a change, instead of “sweating the small stuff”.

  3. This is a shame too, because Sears has been getting such good publicity for their support of the troops. It is my understanding that they save jobs of guard members who have to deploy, and many other good things. I have purchased many of my Christmas gifts at Sears for this very reason. Darn!

    Debbie Hamilton
    Right Truth

  4. You are not completely correct sir. Check out the "christmas tree" section on the kmart web site. They use the word "Christmas" http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/c_10151_10104_For+the+Home_Christmas+Trees+%26+Decorations

  5. On another note, I wouldn't boycott Sears or KMart because of something PC when they have to live in the state of the states as much as we do. In fact, they go further than many of us go in supporting the troops.

    I received an email with this information and verified here:

    Even if your information is correct, which according to some of the preceeding posts, I wouldn't boycott any company going out on limb like that for our military. Sorry.

  6. My wife worked for Sears for 24 years, in the transportation and dispatch end, not retail, and she just vowed to never set foot in one of their stores, or K-Mart ever again...

  7. Now I wonder why self-proclaimed "Mark in Irvine" (or is that Berkeley?) thinks that we "self-proclaimed Christians" (whatever that's supposed to mean)
    are "sweating the small stuff", small stuff, like the Secularist Left's continuing attempts to destroy the very foundations of this great nation?

    Could it be that our friend "Mark in Irvine" is on the other side of this issue? Could it be that he views this whole War Against American Culture from a different point of view? I wonder...

    Somehow, I doubt that our "Mark in Irvine" prays (now watch him write in indignantly saying that he does), but could he be wishing fervently for the quick demise of this beautiful Judeo-Christian society of ours?

    Could he be actively advocating for the replacemant of this grand American Culture with something a little more attractive, like some friendly new form of that consistently-discredited and soulless Atheistic Socialism?

    Great article! The exact degree of the culpability of each individual K-Mart or Sears on this issue is beside the point. If anyone doubts that these giant retailers are caving in to the PC police and abandoning our country's traditional values, then they must be living on some other planet.

    I'm sorry, but I don't give a damn what our "Mark in Irvine" thinks, and I don't give a damn what his Secularist buddies think; but I care greatly that they are trying -- in some cases successfully -- to steal our once-great American traditions right out from under our noses.

    And we just can't let that happen, can we folks? It's wrong. We just can't sit back and let them have their way. Their way is wrong and cold and pointless.

    Good for you, Faultline USA. Never lose confidence in the fact that that we support you. We support you and we honor your integrity.

    Keep up the good work.

  8. I work for Sears and yet to find Christmas in any of their "Wish books" that are sent to homes. Christmas is NOT predominatly displayed in the stores. Many associates are following in line by NOT wishing anyone a "Merry Christmas". Christmas is NOT part of the "Wish" promotion and if it is, it is in a very minimal way. Whether you boycott Sears or not (Sears is losing anyway in customer service ratings, enthusiastic employees, market share and same store sale increases), a stand for Christmas should be taken!

    If Sears Holdings Company is serious about the retail business, the company should take notice of their competition embracing the Christmas Spirit by openly including Christmas in advertised promotions!

    If Sears can NOT resolve the simple issue of Christmas, how can this company resolve the more challenging business issues that are currently hurting Sears?!

    It is Christmas that gave the spirit of giving in love and set the idea of holiday gift giving in the first place!

  9. found somewhere on the web ...

    Twas the month before Christmas and all through the land,
    the Christians were stirring: a war was at hand.
    As the secular people hung lights and red bows,
    the fundies were thinking up mass e-mail prose.

    They picked up their Bibles and lobbied with fury
    at atheists and lib'rals as cop, judge, and jury.
    The fundies - they cried, with phenomenal flair,
    at a war that just didn't appear to be there.

    They spoke of no greetings and secular schools,
    while expecting the nation to bend all its rules.
    Sorry, poor Rachel, you're only a Jew,
    the Christians 'round here can't be bothered with you.

    Kwanzaa is new, and therefore, competing,
    with Jesus and Santa and holy tent meetings.
    "How horrid!", "How dour!", "How pathetic!" they cried,
    "It's Christmas or nothing!" and "nothing" just died.

    "No glorious mangers and tunes at low level?"
    "Surely, this must be the work of the devil."
    And, all of those secular wallets at stores,
    are they turning away all those dollars at doors?

    "Jesus is the reason" they'll scream, pray, and shout,
    while whipping their wallets, with credit cards, out.
    And, while they are screaming, I hope they remember,
    that their Jesus was likely not born in December.

    iPods and XBox, enemy toys!
    The Bible's the gift for good girls and boys.
    Oh wait! They have products to substitute in,
    by Haggard, and Hovind, and someone named Hinn?

    "Here Billy! A book that will help you stay true,
    about pillage and rape and incestual crews."
    But, woe to the Wii game with family fun.
    Unless it's of Jesus, we shouldn't have none.

    Tolerance, humans, and diversity,
    are the wrong reasons to light up a tree?
    Encouraging good will towards folk of all kind,
    is not what dear Matthew and Luke had in mind.

    It's a war on Christmas and the fundies are back,
    to tell us that Jesus is under attack.
    Cradles, and crosses, and creches galore!
    But, worship him, worship him, worship him more.

    In their zeal and devotion to make Jesus matter,
    their cause has been hurt by their incessant chatter.
    A war with no weapons or obvious sides,
    is a war of no reason but blind fundie pride.

    So, here's my proposal, for all human kind:
    You celebrate your way and I'll party mine.
    Praise Jesus and Mary and stars that shine bright;
    I'll read to my kids and then turn out the light.

    For the gifts of humanity, freedom for all,
    means seeing a menorah a-light at your mall.
    The lessons of Kwanzaa, it's principles seven
    do nothing to prevent one a place in your heaven.

    And, when we awake for our own celebrations,
    it's okay that we'll build them on different foundations.
    You have your Christmas and we'll have our own,
    and we'll strive to feel pride in the friendships we've sown.

  10. To M. in I. -- I'm glad that you are taking pride in the friendships you've sown.
    However, I doubt that you've sown too many around here.

  11. C'mon Roger - lighten up a bit. We take ourselves and the kids to church and to religious education, and celebrate Christmas. I know lots of Americans who celebrate Channukah and other end-of-the-year religious and not-religious holidays. These other Americans work, have businesses, pay taxes, vote, obey the laws, educate their kids, and are all-around good people who happen not to be Christian. I really don't care all that much what Sears or Walmart do (or don't) in terms of their decorations or merchandising, because it does not affect me in any way. If they feel that they are being more "inclusive" of people by talking about "holiday" (or Christmas) sales, that is fine with me, because I believe and do what I want and not what anyone tells me. Christmas in the USA these days is more about commerce and covetousness (not that the former is necessary bad or that the latter is good), and I don't think that "insisting" that commercial businesses pick one religion over another as their marketing and decorating theme will change that. I just think it isn't so great for any one particular group to insist that everyone conform to that group's ideas about how to approach this time of year. Merry Christmas to you and yours, and may the peace of God be with you. OK?

  12. M. in I. -- Once again you are trying to obfuscate. We are not the ones insisting on anything. Your side is trying to change our culture or take it away completely and we're fighting back and you don't like it.
    Don't try to diminish the importance of this issue by telling me to "lighten up", as though it was some personal failing of mine to be upset because people like you are attempting to destroy our traditional American culture.

    You obviously don't think this issue is very important, but then, I don't think your opinion is very important.

    I wish I could say it was nice talking with you but...

  13. It is clear that you and I disagree on this point. Merry Christmas to you and yours, and may the peace of God be with you.

  14. Even some of your fellow righties say this is all BS. Stop whining about the stupid stuff, especially when it's just lies.

  15. My final thoughts to M.in I. --

    You call us "self-professing Christians and complainers who are using religion as a bludgeon", and denigrate the importance of our Holiday, then you wish me Merry Christmas? Save your hypocritical greeting for someone else.

    And to "anonymous" -- I shouldn't even respond to someone who posts under "anonymous" -- I have no idea where you're coming from. First you write in a long comment enthusiastically agreeing the premise of the article, then you send in another comment disagreeing with the premise of the article, then you send in that last inscrutable comment about our "fellow righties" saying that this is all "BS", and tell us to "stop whining about the stupid stuff, especially when it;s just lies".

    Whew! I'm not even sure who you're talking to, and I don't think you're too sure either.

    Are you actually several different people posting anonymously?

    Boy, it takes all kinds...

  16. Are you actually several different people posting anonymously?

    Yes, obviously. Did you really need that pointed out to you?

  17. I find it interesting that Sears and KMart really think they will make more money by dropping the word Christmas. Who do they think they are fooling?

    I find it just as interesting how deeply offended many Christians are by what they see as the bastardization of their holiday traditions.

    the truth is these traditions aren't all that old anyway. The Christmas tree dates back to the 1890's when Queen Victoria had the first one in Bukinham palace.

    Santa Claus was designed by a Coca Cola ad man around the same time.

    Jesus was born in the spring but the holiday was moved by the Romans to coincide with their Feast of Luprecal when Emperor Constantine adopted Christianity.

    Finally, one of Jesus' most famous acts was tearing down the tables of the merchants working on the temple floor in Jerusalem because religion was too important and sacred to be used for something as dirty as making money.

    And yet here we are 2000 years later fighting to get the holiday celebrating his birth pushed back into the world of commerce.

    It's a strange world we live in.

  18. Sorry -- but the "Commercialization of Christmas Argument" is a red herring. This argument has been going on for as long as I can remember -- which is a pretty long time.

    This has nothing whatever to do with the left's attempts to do away our Judeo-Christian heritage and replace it with some form of atheistic-secularism.

  19. "Sorry -- but the "Commercialization of Christmas Argument" is a red herring. This argument has been going on for as long as I can remember -- which is a pretty long time.

    "This has nothing whatever to do with the left's attempts to do away our Judeo-Christian heritage and replace it with some form of atheistic-secularism."

    There is an expression "just because you are paranoid doesn't mean that they're NOT out to get you". I think in your case, however, you are just paranoid and nobody is out to get you.

    The "left" (whatever that is) certainly has better things to do than to worry about whether Sears or Wal-Mart advertise "holiday trees" rather than Christmas trees: just open any newspaper and read about (i) American foreign policy, (ii) health care, (iii) the presidential race, (iv) Barney and Mrs. Beasley at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

    Mark (really) In Irvine (not Berkeley)

  20. Final comment to Mark -- If the left has better things to do then by all means please let them do it, and keep their atheistic little hands off our Christmas.

    BTW: In case you're a little mixed up, this is not an atheist site, I think you took a wrong turn somewhere.

    I'm tired of arguing with you. You've been peddling this same pathetic nonsense all over the internet, and as far as I can tell, all you've ever managed to do is to create more annoyance on those conservative sites you visit, but you certainly haven't made any worthwhile points or created any converts with your empty rhetoric.

    This isn't my site and obviously you can comment here as much as you wish.

    I'm just not going to respond to you anymore. It's pointless.

  21. It is clear that you and I disagree on this point. Merry Christmas to you and yours anyway.

  22. great post Fault!...how sad ..holiday trees.too funny!

  23. "... keep their atheistic little hands off our Christmas."

    Besides, Christmas belongs to all of us. Greedy b*st*rd!

  24. Finally, the true voice of that kindly and reasonable atheistic socialistic movement, euphemistically and misleadingly called "liberalism" emerges. I am now a "greedy bastard" (or was that meant to be "busturd"?

    This after wishing me Merry Christmas! Any wonder why I reject your disingenuous Christmas greetings?

    Let me see if I have this straight now. You don't like Christians (self-professing ones anyway), you don't think that keeping our cultural traditions (like Christmas) intact are important issues, but you want to enjoy your Christmas anyway. Then -- incredibly -- you accuse us of wanting to take your Christmas away from you! Wow!

    How do you argue with people like this?

    Answer: you don't.


  25. I appreciate all Sears does for the troops, but one has nothing to do with the other.

    The troops and Christmas are two different things.

    This is about K-Mart and Sears and Christmas.

    Holidays should be respected, all of them and by dropping the word Christmas they are deliberately disrespecting THAT holiday.

    To commenter Melissa, I DO agree that in certain cities and certain states, they do not make it policy to hide the word Christmas. After having lived in TN for a couple of years, I found that there were many religious areas and that would be a death knell to them to do so in those areas.

    If they want to be so damn politically correct, let them ADD all the holiday names instead of subtracting Christmas.

    The catalogs I receive to shop or order from get thrown in the garbage with no order if they do not have Christmas in them.

  26. I wonder when the Knuckleheads at the Highest Level of Sears-K Mart will realize that even in Freshman sales and Marketing 1&2 classes The Christmas Season means anywhere between 60 and 80 % of Annual Retail sales and Profits.. and that CHRISTMAS us the Reason for the Surge in Spending by customers.. Being PC correct is NOT the reason we Shop at the box stores... otherwise they'd have to reinvent the PC tree Shopping season in JULY or such ... Me , I have decided that Unless the Store advertises CHRISTMAS , I shall not purchase anything in those chains in the future.. I equate them to CHINES tainted Toys...


    Dear Children,

    It has come to my attention that many of you are upset that folks are taking My name out of the season. Maybe you've forgotten that I wasn't actually born during this time of the year. Historically, some of your predecessors decided to celebrate My birthday on what was actually a time of pagan festival. Although I do appreciate being remembered anytime.

    How I personally feel about this celebration can probably be most easily understood by those of you who have been blessed with children of your own. I don't care what you call the day. If you want to celebrate My birth, just GET ALONG AND LOVE ONE ANOTHER.

    Now, having said that, let Me go on. If it bothers you that the town in which you live doesn't allow a scene depicting My birth, then just get rid of a couple of Santas and snowmen and put in a small Nativity scene on your own front lawn. If all My followers did that, there wouldn't be any need for such a scene on the town square because there would be plenty of them all around town.

    Stop worrying about the fact that people are calling the tree a holiday tree, instead of a Christmas tree. It was I who made all trees. You can remember Me anytime you see any tree. Decorate a grapevine if you wish: I actually spoke of that one in a teaching, explaining who I am in relation to you and what each of our tasks were. Remember to look up John 15: 1 - 8.

    If you want to give Me a present in remembrance of My birth, here is my wish list. Choose something from it:

    1. Instead of writing protest letters objecting to the way My birthday is being celebrated, write letters of love and hope to soldiers away from home. They are terribly afraid and lonely this time of year. I know, they tell Me all the time.

    2. Visit someone in a nursing home. You don't have to know them personally. They just need to know that someone cares about them.

    3. Instead of writing George complaining about the wording on the cards his staff sent out this year, why don't you write and tell him that you'll be praying for him and his family this year. Then follow up. It will be nice hearing from you again.

    4. Instead of giving your children a lot of gifts you can't afford and they don't need, spend time with them. Tell them the story of My birth, and why I came to live with you down here. Hold them in your arms--no matter how old they are--and remind them that I love them.

    5. Did you know that someone in your town will attempt to take his or her own life this season, feeling so alone and hopeless? Since you never know who that person is, try giving everyone you meet a warm smile; it could make all the difference.

    6. Instead of nit picking about what the retailer in your town calls the holiday, be patient with the people who work there. Give them a warm smile and a kind word. Even if they aren't allowed to wish you a 'Merry Christmas', that doesn't keep you from wishing them one.

    7. If you really want to make a difference, support a missionary-- especially one who takes My love and Good News to those who have never heard My name.

    8. Here's a good one. There are individuals and whole families in your town who not only will have no 'Christmas' tree, but neither will they have any presents to give or receive. If you don't know them, buy some food and a few gifts and give them to the Salvation Army or some other charity that believes in Me and they will make the delivery for you.

    9. Finally, if you want to make a statement about your belief in and loyalty to Me, then behave like a Christian. Don't do things in secret that you wouldn't do in My presence. Let people know by your actions that you are one of Mine.

    Don't forget; I am God and can take care of Myself. Just love Me and do what I have told you to do. I'll take care of all the rest. Check out the list above and get to work; time is short. I'll help you, but the ball is now in your court. And do have a most blessed Christmas with all those whom you love and remember.


  28. Source for the "letter": http://fromthepasture.blogspot.com/

  29. And Joseph went up from Galilee to Bethlehem with Mary, his espoused wife, who was great with child. And she brought forth a son and wrapped him in swaddling clothes and laid him in a manger because there was no room for them in the inn. And the angel of the Lord spoke to the shepherds and said, "I bring you tidings of great joy. Unto you is born a Savior, which is Christ the Lord." (Luke 2:4-11)

    "There's a problem with the angel," said a lawyer who happened to be strolling by the stable. As he explained to Joseph, angels are widely regarded as religious symbols, and the stable was on public property where such symbols were not allowed to land or even hover.

    "Besides," said another lawyer who was with him, "there are no such things as angels, and telling a child that they're real will only hinder the child's emotional development. And I have to tell you, this whole thing looks very much like a Nativity scene. That's a no-no, too."

    Joseph had a bright idea. "What if I put a couple of reindeer over there near the ox and ass?" he said, eager to avoid sectarian strife.
    "That would definitely help," said the lawyer, who knew as well as anyone that whenever a "savior" appeared, judges usually liked to be on the safe side and surround it with deer or woodland creatures of some sort. "Just to clinch it, throw in a candy cane and a couple of elves and snowmen, too," he quickly suggested. "No court can resist that."
    Mary, who had been listening in, asked, "What does my son's birth have to do with snowmen?"
    "Snowpersons!" cried a young woman, changing the subject before it veered dangerously toward religion.

    Off to the side of the crowd, a federally-subsidized artist was painting the Nativity scene. Mary pointed out that she and Joseph looked unusually tattered and worn in the picture. "Artistic license," the artist said. "I've got to show the plight of the haggard homeless in a greedy, uncaring society in winter," he quipped. “But we're not haggard or homeless. The inn was just full," said Mary. "Whatever," said the painter.

    Two women began to argue fiercely. One said she objected to Jesus' birth "because it privileged motherhood." The other scoffed at virgin births, but said that if they encouraged more attention to diversity in family forms and the rights of single mothers, well, then, she was all for them.

    "I'm not a single mother," Mary started to say, but she was cut off by a third woman who insisted that swaddling clothes are a form of child abuse, since they restrict the natural movement of babies.

    With the arrival of ten child advocates, all trained to spot infant abuse and manger rash, Mary and Joseph were pushed to the edge of the crowd, where arguments were breaking out over how many reindeer (or what mix of reindeer and seasonal sprites) had to be installed to compensate for the infant's unfortunate religious character.

    An older man bustled up, bowling over two merchants who had been busy debating whether an elf is the same as a fairy and whether the elf/fairy should be shaking hands with Jesus in the crib or merely standing to the side, jumping around like a sports mascot.

    "I'd hold off on the reindeer," the man said, explaining that the use of asses and oxen as picturesque backdrops for Nativity scenes carries the subliminal message of human dominance. He passed out two leaflets, one denouncing manger births as invasions of animal space, the other arguing that stables are "penned environments" where animals are incarcerated against their will. He had no opinion about elves or candy canes.

    Signs declaring "Free the Bethlehem 2" began to appear, referring to the obviously exploited ass and ox. Someone said the halo on Jesus' head was elitist.

    Mary was exasperated. "And what about you, old mother?" she said sharply to an elderly woman. "Are you here to attack the shepherds as prison guards for excluded species, or just to say that I should have skipped patriarchal religiosity and joined some dumb new-age goddess religion?"

    "None of the above," said the woman, "I just wanted to tell you that the Magi are here." Sure enough, the three wise men rode up.

    The crowd gasped, "They're all male! And not very multicultural!" "Balthasar is black," said one of the Magi.
    "Yes, but how many of you are gay or disabled?" someone shouted.
    A committee was quickly formed to find an alternative group of wise-persons who reflected the cultural, racial, and social diversity of Bethlehem. Just then a calm voice said, "Be of good cheer, Mary, you have done well and your son will change the world."
    "At last, a sane person," Mary thought. She turned to see a radiant and confident female face.
    The woman spoke again: "There is one thing, though. Religious holidays are important, but can't we learn to celebrate them in ways that unite, not divide? For instance, instead of all this business about 'Gloria in excelsis Deo,' why not just 'Season's Greetings'?"

    Mary said, "You mean my son has entered human history to deliver the message, 'Hello, it's winter'?"

    "That's harsh, Mary," said the woman. "Remember, your son could make it big in midwinter festivals, if he doesn't push the religion thing too far. Centuries from now, in nations yet unborn, people will give each other pricey gifts and have big office parties on his birthday. That's not chopped liver."

    "Let me get back to you," Mary said.

    In the meantime the Magi had been asked by others how much their gifts had cost, and when told the price several protested and said the money could have been better spent on the poor and homeless. "Besides," said one, "what can a baby do with gold, frankincense, and myrrh?"

    "You don't understand," said one of the Magi, "we brought these gifts to honor and worship this child who has been born King of the Jews." Whereupon the child advocates protested that adults should not pre-determine a child's future. "It should be left up to the child to decide for himself what he wants to be."

    One of the shepherds called out from the back of the crowd: "The prophet Micah wrote that out of Bethlehem would come a Ruler to shepherd God's people."

    "That's just a myth," countered the head of the Prophet's Seminar who had just arrived with his committee. "We scholars have determined that the prophets actually said very little of what they are credited with saying, and everything they reportedly said about a Messiah was added years later by other writers."

    "How did you determine that?" asked Joseph.

    The most intelligent member of the Prophet's Seminar was chosen as spokesperson and replied, "We flipped a coin."

    After much talking, the various advocates agreed to meet again at a later date in a place more suitable for them and continue their discussions about the child's welfare. Gradually they drifted out of the stable and left the shepherds and the Magi alone with Joseph and Mary and the child.

    Mary took Joseph's hand and said, "Husband, tell me again what the angel Gabriel said to you about our son."

    Squeezing her hand, Joseph answered, "He said that we should call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins."

    Mary looked down at her son and sighed deeply, and then said to no one in particular, "I wonder if they will let Him?"

    (Thanks to Harold Chadwick at Omega Faith Ministries for his article that inspired this blog post. I have taken his original idea and made slight revisions.)


  30. You guys have 10 days to make up your minds, you see on the 25th it will be Jesus's birthday.
    As in Christmas itself no one can take away the miracle that was given to us.
    Sears, K-Mart have lost touch with reality. No one says Merry Christmas if they don't know what it means to begin with.
    I take it they don't. Would it kill them to say Merry Christmas, yes I think it would for they would have to go against the PC crowd.
    When I think of Christmas I know my mind goes right to Silent Night.
    I don't care about the PC crowd's thoughts, I know Jesus was born. And it wouldn't hurt people to know that the Babe in that manger came here to save us all.
    Sears has a problem, so does this Mark he wants people to believe only in what he thinks they should. Next time don't take a Christmas bonus, vacation or ski Trip. That's what the idiots are doing anyway. Even after refusing to keep Christmas in their hearts & minds.

  31. "Sears has a problem, so does this Mark he wants people to believe only in what he thinks they should."

    No - I think some of you here have a problem with the concept of other people not believing the same way you do. I can live with that. I just laugh at how much energy is wasted on "sweating the small stuff". Why not live like Jesus admonished us to live, and stop spazzing out about what other people do? Jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". To me that says that none of us is in a position to criticize or condemn others - God will take care of that. How many food boxes could we put together for homeless or down and out people if we weren't freaking out about what Sears and Wal-Mart and K-Mark are or are not doing? That's my point. The only "war" going on as I see it is between what goes on in our own hearts, and what Jesus taught.

  32. Ohhhh... and I so wanted to drop this ridiculous "conversation", however, as we can all see, it's obviously very important for a certain self-important ego to get in the last word -- even if that last word is more of that same inane nonsense. Now he's even using Jesus to support his secularist arguments against Christians!

    And he continues using this comment section to cut and paste long anti-Christmas (anti-Christian)
    tracts (which, personally, I don't even read), instead of posting original commentary like everyone else.

    I have one final question for that persistent itch that just won't go away -- What good do you think you've actually accomplished here? Have you accomplished anything at all, except perhaps the thrill of seeing your words in print once again?

    You have accomplished one thing though -- you have successfully demonstrated the emptiness and unpleasantness of your anti-Christian, anti-Christmas

    As far as letting you have the last word on this thread is concerned, I'm sorry, but this little competition is about as pointless as a drinking contest.

    Good bye -- Please.

  33. "I have one final question for that persistent itch that just won't go away -- What good do you think you've actually accomplished here? Have you accomplished anything at all, except perhaps the thrill of seeing your words in print once again?"

    I've shown that this whole "war on Christmas" business is just a joke told by people whose agenda is something other than truly honoring Christ - it is a mis-use of "Christianity" to create a "christianist" cult for the political purpose of trying to amass political power, divide people from one another, AND for for the personal cult-member's purpose of grouping like-minded people around her or him for self- congratulation. It is akin to a religious "heresy".

  34. Mark in Irvine has left numerous and overly long comments on this post page. I’ve been tempted to delete them for their abusive nature. Mark wants to know “What good do you think you've actually accomplished here?”

    The good that has been accomplished is immeasurable but one thing is for sure. If anyone reads Mark in Irvine’s comments in context they will understand the futility of attempting dialog with emotionally troubled souls. Unfortunately, many on the left come across just like Mark in Irvine.

    Any future comments from Mark in Irvine will be immediately deleted.